Basket of Philosophical conclusions

Discussion with Guruji on Guru Poornima function at  Avadutha Ashram

My prayers to you “ guru is Brahman, guru is Vishnu, guru is Ishwara and you are real Para Brahma I bow to you and salutation to you” please bless me with knowledge.

Guruji: Listen to me carefully, the entire world of the movable and immovable is submerged in ocean of Atman; still people deluded by Maya do not know that.

Just a man through thirsty, abandons cold water tries to quench this thirst in the waters of mirage.

The sinner out of confusion abandons the blissful atman and plunges in the great boundless ocean of samsara.

Thinking about the residence in the womb and then coming out of it and after being born the dependence based on the ignorance, then fear from others, the father, the elders and children and later separation from the relatives , sons and wife and also DEATH.

1.    Can you please explain to me in detail for the benefit of the people around assembled here?

Mother ,father,son,relatives and friends the wife etc and the desire to live there again and again is always bondage(samasara) and understand decoupling is required to attain Moksha or Nirvana.

Moksha is not about leaving  the body and attain rather it is simply verdicts “Exit from Maya or Ignorance” and knowing the truth.

Buddha meditated for several years to attain Moksha or Nirvana still he was struggling to attain Moksha because beneath of his heart he had the utmost desire to attain it . Then later on he came to know that even desire or kama is the greatest obstacle to attain knowledge hence after some time he discards his desire to attain Moksha after that only he attains Nirvana. The essence is releasing  yourself from all the desires is very essential to attain Nirvana.

The supreme power rises in the sky of the consciousness which is the form of knowledge; it is to be considered as it natural power just like heat for fire.

The power will not be different from the possessor of the power the capacity to illuminate is the supreme self.

When cloth is analyzed concludes that it is made from the thread similarly the living beings are created by supreme god alone.

The universe of gross form is assumed to be in centre just as the tree exists in the seed of the tree.

Santha Thukaram sings “ aadi beeja onde, aadi beeja was broken down in to smaller pieces and formed the different plants”. Similarly even the self is one, though the bodies are many so also though the entities are different in all of them the essence is one.

 

Hence our seniors spread the same message to the world we are children’s of single god and our objective VASUDEVA KUTUMBAKAM when this is realized there is only love , no hatred and no war * the cruelty should vanish from the world. The peace should persists.

Why we need to spend money on arms and ammunition's instead spend on removing the poverty and hunger,diseases.

Lessons learned on Brahma Vidya

Discussion with Guruji on 2007 , Makara Sankramana At Avadhutha Ashram

1.    Can we see god from naked eyes?

      

   Guruji: Yes, but your eyes should be open.

2.Then my mind is wanted to know more information about god and other details hence please explain to me in detail?

Guruji: Om, The sun is the supreme god  from sun all the creatures are born;

the yagna, air,water,bhumi,food,agni,devas,veda-s i.e. 4 Vedas Rigveda, YagurVeda,SamaVeda and Atharvaveda.

The sun is Brahman (Vishnu or Narayan- Naranam Samuham ithi Narayana)

The sun scorches this sphere ; he is inner organ,mind,intellect,prana and ego etc

Hence when I was studying under the guidance of Sri Ramana Mahrishi we used to pray like this

“ I bow to Bhanu to the shining one , the cause of the universe protect me from death.

Let me here briefly the describe the objective of our ancient rishi’s and western scientists

Our Rishi’s focus was always towards inwards hence they have researched more on attaining Bliss because after some time materialistic comfort vanishes since there is no end for it.

Hence compared to other parts of the world our focus is on the cause rather than the effect.

Effect is Maya but cause is Truth or Brahman, when you focus on effect or Maya your objective is lost and you can’t able to know the truth i.e. Brahman

Consider this example when you observe a Sea, you see lot of waves , bubbles etc are appearing and disappearing these are the effects but cause is SEA , effects are in multiple forms in nature but root cause is always one; due to our ignorance we can’t able to identify the cause.

Similarly all creatures are born of Surya and are protected by him, dissolve in him.

Upanishad says” savitar is before us as well as behind, above and below . May he grant us omnipresence  and long life.

3.How to conclude that every object on earth is created by Sun god?

Guruji: Good question it seems you have real hunger to know the knowledge , let me teach you

Currently you are holding one plastic glass everyone knows that this plastic glass is made of plastic when we study deep ,this plastic is made from original material called mud , again when we do analysis deeply it boils down to earth/Bhumi again when analyze deeply ( go back thousand years back) according to Science this earth is created by Sun god.Hence all indeed is creation of Sun god

 4. Can you share your comparison with Science and Philosophy?

Guruji: Science is very premature to be compared with Philosophy, but science has given good contribution to mankind .

We need both philosopher and scientists to the world hence lord Krishna says” Vigananam karma kausalam”

let us consider Einstein theory of relativity  realizes that matter and energy are really different forms of the same thing. Matter can be turned into energy, and energy into matter.

Although this is relative theory ( not absolute theory) but essence is energy is the vital source of the universe and source of energy is Sun.

This had been earlier shared by our ancient Indians in “Surya Siddhantha” Book

Hence all our astrological predictions are based on the Surya siddhantha.

Science theories always relates to space and time, hence all the inventions are related to space and time and it may change at later stage hence science is relative knowledge but Upnisad is absolute knowledge.

Our Rishi’s did penance for  several years to gain this knowledge and German Philosopher Max Muller says “they were Greatest thinkers of mankind”

They observed that absolute truth is beyond time and space bound, hence Upanishad knowledge is universal not confined to any religion.

Our mind is engineered in such a fashion that it always thinks in the dimension of space of time ,hence it is very difficult to think beyond space and time for normal human being.

The minimum qualification to think beyond mind is you should control your body, senses this happens only through YOGA ( Hatha yoga, Raja Yoga etc)